Meanwhile, you should know that tonight's debate is taking place at Kim's alma mater, Hofstra. She said she recognizes the neighborhoods in the video posted on today's Debate Warmup post.
So here we go folks. Blogging in a few minutes... live, here, in the hooooooouuuuuuuuse.
9:01 PM Bob Schieffer looks so jolly and nice. Kim agrees!
9:02 PM McCain is writing frantically, Kim says we can't vote for him because he's a lefty, aka sinisterness. Also, sup with the black tie, McCain? Don't cha know? It's blue or red, man. BLUE OR RED!!!!! Why does McCain hate America? Oh, sorry... got carried.
9:04 PM Kim pointed out that McCain's face (on the left cheek) looks particularly swollen today.
9:07 PM Welcome Matts of the world, Nate, Corinne, anyone else who hasn't commented yet. Also, Kim is worried about the question of what the candidates are going to do to help people who actually do pay their mortgages
9:09 PM Kim's asking why the government doesn't go after all the small businesses who don't claim any of the $ they make. Her question is why people get away with claiming $30,000 when they're somehow magically paying to live in a $500,000 home. I said, "hmm... that's way more insightful than anything I could have said on this topic."
9:11 PM McCain wants to prevent Obama from spreading money all over the place. No spreads. McCain does not like that fake spread stuff, only real butter NO SPREADS!!!
9:13 PM From the comments: Joe Sixpack, Joe the Plumber, GI Joe, Jonah and the Whale
McCain dominates in all J-names!!!, also Ryan Howard just singled in the Phils second run of the game, Phillies 2/Dodgers 0. Finally, McCain still frantically and sinisterly writing.
9:15 PM Burell singles in the next Phillies run (Phillies 3/Dodgers 0)
9:16 PM A little delayed here, but how about that classic, "class warfare" dig from McCain??? That was old skool! I remembered when McCain started talking about how things worked back in the Great Depression when McCain was first elected to the Senate. Men in Ohio LOVE when McCain talks about hatcheting his scalpels.
9:18 PM YES YES YES, 18 minutes in and McCain has already brought out the projector! That's right, Johnny Mac! Hit 'em hard! Drill baby Drill!
9:21 PM Men like when McCain gets testy, women not so much. Obama sometimes just outright laughs when John McCain gets super testy.
9:24 PM Woah weird moment where McCain challenges Obama on whether he's challenged his party's leaders, then when Obama actually offers some examples McCain pulls out an even bigger list.
9:25 PM From the comments: Venice: The black tie is for McCain's campaign. Corinne: yeah - Mccain looks like darth vader with that tie. Glad we're all on the same page.
9:30 PM Of Course McCain talks to Joe the plumber about his wealth and how people want to put low-fat non-butter spreads on his money.
9:34 PM From the comments: Oh come on. Stop pretending like you don't understand what Lewis was saying about the atmosphere at your campaign events! I hate it when politicians pretend to be upset about something. I hate it so very much.
9:36 PM Hi Auntie Mel-mel! Nice to see you here with us!!!!
9:36 PM Wow... into the Ayers thing.
9:38 PM While Obama was talking I think McCain was gritting his teeth or something, because Kim noticed and then we both watched in awe as his left cheek kinda pulsated. Weird stuff.
9:42 PM From the comments: Raphe: phew, thank you, a new good topic... whew! what about those running mates? YEOW!, venice: Running mates? This can't be good for McCain!
9:43 PM Kim, "Do you know how much he regrets picking her?" Amen. Wait! Wait! Todd Palin is tough, so VOTE McCAIN!
9:47 PM Wow, McCain pulled out the whole we've had nukes on Navy ships for years so it must be safe line AGAIN. Seriously. Do people believe this? I guess the folks who might fall for that won't necessarily worry about whether it makes any sense or not.
9:50 PM From the comments: venice: Forget foreign oil. What really worries me is foreign air. Do you know how much of our air comes from other countries? We should only allow people to breath air made domestically.
9:51 PM I think Obama really was clear and smart on unfair trade there.
9:54 PM More wardrobe commentary from the peanut gallery!!: venice: Obama= flag pin. McCain= not so much. Matt: OMG Venice is right. McCain hates America! I hear he doesn't say the pledge of allegiance. Corinne: mccain's suit is velour. it looks kind of sparkly.
9:58 PM Ohio loves Obama's health care solutions. Meanwhile, the Dodgers are falling apart, my friends. It's now 5-0 Phillies with two outs and the bases loaded in the 5th inning. Back in the debate, John McCain is on the up-tick when talking about how much he cares about obesity. Joe the plumber is back! WOMEN HATE JOE! Shut up about Joe, McCain, the ladies hate Joe the plumber. Their happy lines are super low.
10:01 PM From the comments: venice: I would point out that neither NAFTA or Columbia are actually Free Trade agreements, by definition. They should be callled "Discriminatory Trade Agreements" because they favour certain countries, discriminating between countries we judge worthy and those we don't. FREE trade would allow us to to trade regardless of nationality.
10:03 PM As someone who will be deemed to have a pre-existing condition should I ever be unlucky enough to lapse in healthcare coverage, I greatly appreciate what Obama just said. Also, I'm glad he tossed up the $ amounts for cost on an average annual plan.
10:07 PM From the comments: Nate: I am so going to rob Joe... That sucker is loaded!!
10:08 PM Kim: "John McCain sure got the best in Sarah Palin, huh?" ZING!
10:10 PM Obama wins! He has made the leap from talking about stupid old Joe plumber who nobody even likes anymore or perhaps ever did, to Lillie Leadbetter who is only hated by John McCain, who by the way is courageously and compassionately proudly pro life.
10:12 PM I think John McCain has now called his opponent "Senator Government" and, "Sarah Obama."
10:15 PM Barack Obama believes that, "Sexuality is sacred," which I think maybe I think too... but it kinda sounds funny, and um... sexy?
10:17 PM WHEW! The last question is actually good, important and non-bizarro this time around! I understood it. I'm excited to hear what they have to say. So far Obama is talking clearly about the programmatic plans and ideas he has.
10:18 PM From the comments: venice: Dude, McCain HATES Obama's eloquence! You can see his blood pressure rising! Mac, the hand quotes are not worthy of you! (go Phillies!)
10:20 PM John McCain for now is focusing on education policy and ideas, which is kinda cool. I expected him to basically say, "rah rah charters" and then back to the kitchen sink junk. I'm impressed here. Nice shout-out to Teach for America, and then this weird troops to teachers thing that McCain makes sound like if you've been in the battlefield you must be qualified to teach, which strikes me as um... weird (and I hope that doesn't come across as offensive to troops, cause I've got some friends who were in boats... not quite the battlefields, but still...)
10:22 PM From the comments: Raphe: community! service! responsibility! so positive, such a relief to listen to Obama and so painful to listen to the black tie guy., Matt: what kind of sense does it make to let anybody leave the army and become a teacher without certification? Did I hear that right?, venice: Hint for federal government about education: if you make a state or local government do something, give them the money to do it!
10:25 PM Manny hits his latest post-season homerun, posting the Dodgers first run of the night out in LA, 6th inning out there Phillies 5/Dodgers 1
10:28 PM Here in John McCain's closing comments I finally am getting a good chance to soak in his fine fine suit, and I agree with the others who have suggested it just may be velour. It looks so soft. I want to hug him. Especially since he has no flag pin, hence there is no danger of being scratched by said lapel dagger.
10:30 PM Kim and Zoey agree, this debate is the perfect sedative. 2 people, 1 dog here in the house. 1 person and 1 dog sleeping, 1 person blogging away. I love the phrase, "service and responsibility." I think it really drives home what Obama is all about.
10:31 PM Schieffer's closing line was really quite lovely, "Go vote. It will make you feel big and strong." I also liked John McCain's hearty, "Good job! Good Job!" Wait, did John McCain just wag his tongue at the croud while giving them a thumbs-up? WOAH! That was unexpected and kinda... awesome!?!?!?!
10:32 PM Thank you so much to all of the lovely and amazing folks who left comments. This was tons and tons and tons of fun.
Final thing: Corinne just tossed this up in the comments, and I saw it earlier today. Check out the fun site Palin as President. You have to mouse around and click on stuff to discover all the fun pieces of what's going on.
One More Actual Final thing: It's already a headline from the AP (10:39 PM) "Ohio plumber becomes focus of debate."
He's Joe Wurzelbacher, an Ohio man looking to buy a plumbing business who came to symbolize the middle class in Wednesday night's presidential debate...
98 comments:
First!
I'm so nervous!!
Me too!! I'm so excited I could* oh wait... I'm done.
First impression: McCain isn't delivering crisply. He also seems to be lisping a bit more than normal.
Secondly, Obama's tie > McCain's tie
Okay, he wrapped up that comment well so I take my first impression back.
Looking at camera >> Not looking at camera
Oh, now McCain got the camera memo!
mccain sounds so whistley today.
Joe Sixpack, Joe the Plumber, GI Joe, Jonah and the Whale
McCain dominates in all J-names!!!
obama is clearly a communist
RBI for Howard!!!!
RBI for Burrell!!!!
Way to just sorta kinda answer the question about cutting programs Obama!
isn't a spending freeze not a cut??
like isn't a freeze just freeze at current spending levels? not cut EVERY single thing, right?
Men all like McCain better while women like Obama better in general. I blame their respective choices of neckwear.
Hey, Obama.... look up from the desk now and then!
The black tie is for McCain's campaign.
yeah - Mccain looks like darth vader with that tie.
Oh DAYM! I'm not BUSH motherF-$&er!
I very much like McCain's views on ethonal by the way, especially lowering the tariffs on the beet ethonal.
obama should just say that he went up against the clinton MACHINE!
I noticed that the Happy Lines like it when Obama says positive things about McCain.
While comparing McCain to a segregationist is absurd, I don't think that McCain has always repudiated unfair comments by republicans, including some by his running mate!
Oh come on. Stop pretending like you don't understand what Lewis was saying about the atmosphere at your campaign events!
I hate it when politicians pretend to be upset about something. I hate it so very much.
My comment wasn't directed at you Venice!
You know that "Joe the Plumber" is going to show up in an SNL sketch this Saturday, right?
Hey, MCCCCCain didn't deliver the projector thing that well. strong the way he speaks anObama was just listening well, hands still. Now, talking, he looks strong the way he speaks and moves-- centered for the duration.
--Raphe
He's gonna' stab Obama with the pen!!!
Everytime someone mentions Joe the Plumber I will do a shot! I hope to be drunk by the end of the debate.
Hey, MCCCCCain didn't deliver the projector thing that well. strong the way he speaks anObama was just listening well, hands still. Now, talking, he looks strong the way he speaks and moves-- centered for the duration.
--Raphe
No worries Matt! I totally get what you're saying!
Ha! How many crowds of 20,000 does McCain draw?
Bleek! last comment ate its own tail.
think they are warming up now. Time for Bob to center things though- Obama is holding himself well despite the ick in the air
ugh - this whole back and forth is just disgusting.
This exchange makes my skin crawl. Let's get back to some real issues.
hmmm... i guess that's just what a debate is. but i meant that this whole question is annoying.
and now McCain starts throwing the kitchen sink at Obama....
ACORN is destroying the fabric of democracy? Damn! Somebody should call a bunch of squirrels!
this is JUST RIDICULOUS. make it stop!!!!
This is fast becoming a debate about negtive campaigning. Don't we have more important things to talk about?
phew, thank you, a new good topic... whew! what about those running mates? YEOW!
Running mates? This can't be good for McCain!
$10 says McCain says the word "Maverick" in his response!
Oh shit, I'm screwed. I think somebody told him not to say maverick tonight.
Obama's going to be totally gray in 2 years if he's elected.
Much as I think autism is an important issue, I am note sure it is a major concern in selecting a president. It's surprising to me that it has gotten so much time.
Obama= flag pin. McCain= not so much.
Forget foreign oil. What really worries me is foreign air. Do you know how much of our air comes from other countries? We should only allow people to breath air made domestically.
is mccain REALLY mocking safety again? interesting reasoning.
that pipeline MCcccCain touted is said by Rolling Stone to be not exacctly started and going to cost $500 million anyway even if it doesn't get built ( think that right amount)
Maverick is one of those words that sounds ridiculous when it's uttered more than 3 times a year.
Damn Japanese and Koreans making cars! How dare they? We invented the automobile and therefore have rights in them forever.
derek says this discussion question is really "how do you reduce america's big fat ass?"
OMG Venice is right. McCain hates America! I hear he doesn't say the pledge of allegiance
HAHA! Good idea Obama! We have really got to get those Canadians to bring their labour and envirnomental laws up to American standards!
Yeah, how's that fight against the flow of drugs going? No drugs here, right?
mccain's suit is velour. it looks kind of sparkly.
So the Columbian Free Trade agreement is a reward for them capturing drug dealers?
C'mon Johnny, you've got about 30 minutes to get America to like you again!
obama looks cocky when he laughs too much when mccain talks.
I would point out that neither NAFTA or Columbia are actually Free Trade agreements, by definition. They should be callled "Discriminatory Trade Agreements" because they favour certain countries, discriminating between countries we judge worthy and those we don't. FREE trade would allow us to to trade regardless of nationality.
I forgot JOE Lieberman. He loves McCain too!
Again with the 'phucking plummer!
Dude, I am getting wasted on this Joe stuff! The plumber that is, not the coffee. JOE, JOE, JOE!
I don't think McCain's suit is sparkly. That's just some glitter from his eye shadow.
McCain's new platform is to put Joe the Plumber in charge of economics and to send Todd Palin to Iraq, since, you know, he's really tough.
It's going to be awesome when some newspaper tracks down this Joe guy and interviews him tomorrow.
joe the plumber is probably so fking embarrassed right now.
Dammit stop saying Joe! Please make it stop!
I am so going to rob Joe... That sucker is loaded!!
Our cat just stepped on the remote and changed the channel from CNN to NBC. WHAT IS OUR CAT TRYING TO TELL US?!?!?!?!
Joe is taking his cash to the nearest street walker so he can put it right back into the economy
that's right, he can send Todd Palin to Iraq because, hey, it's united like he said, right?
breyer, alito, who cares...
Maybe it's me but I find McCain very confusing when he talks about appointing judges. It sounded like he basically wanted to say that he would only nominate someone for their qualifications but that somone who agreed with Roe would not be qualified. or something.
Oabma's tie is well coordinated with the CNN logo.
Yeah Venice, what you said... except when said it, it was more confusing...
The men's happy lines love McCain on abortion. The women, not so much.
Corinne, I thought he said Breyer too but thought it was just my mistake! Practically the same judge anyway, right?
No, he definitely said Breyer.
Dude, McCain HATES Obama's eloquence! You can see his blood pressure rising! Mac, the hand quotes are not worthy of you! (go Phillies!)
Man, McCain loses me whenever he tries to talk about abortion.
Online headlines are already saying: "McCain on the attack"... Not enough mention of the plummer if you ask me...
Getting out of college only $20k in debt is not that bad these days! Good for Obama for bringing that up though.
mccain is winning on half the analyst scorecards!
community! service! responsibility! so positive, such a relief to listen to Obama and so painful to listen to the black tie guy.
what kind of sense does it make to let anybody leave the army and become a teacher without certification? Did I hear that right?
Hint for federal government about education: if you make a state or local government do something, give them the money to do it!
Americans will open the wallets to pay for autism research? Open them how? Through evil taxes?
McCain's contempt for Obama is increasingly apparent. Can't imagine that will help him much.
Despite stumbling on his words a bit, McCain's closing was very good. Many voters might feel more comfortable with him and he knows it.
Obama's closing was not quite what I would have expected. He seemed less comfortable than usual and stumbled a bit himself. Still, an off night for Obama is very good indeed.
but mccain looked like he was begging for votes. official commentary time!!
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Good job all around with the blog guys!
I did think McCain did well tonight. He really it all the points he felt he needed to do, especially early on. I must admit I didn't pay attention to the closing remarks.
thanks for the good company everybody!
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